Megadeth

Im turning into quite a Deth fan Any other fans?

Lets Talk Megadeth the best thing In my opinion to come from Metallica

ultmetal wrote:

On a seperate note, I have all the original CD releases of their albums. The re-releases disappoint me with all the re-recording of parts and the addition of things that weren't in the originals. Trog and I played both versions of "Into the Lungs of Hell" and the addition of those horns just suck!

I whole heartedly agree with you on this one. The song was much better the way the way it was orginally mixed.

I love MEGADETH. They have always been my favorite out of the big names of the thrash metal movement of the 80's.

I have all of the remasters, and when I heard that many of the parts had been tampered with, I got cdr burns of all of the original releases and added them in to all of the remasters with 2CD cases so I could have both versions handy.

I personally didn't mind that horn bit that ult was talking about. I thought it was sort of interesting, but I'm glad I have copies of it done both ways!

But I have always loved MEGADETH from the very beginning when I had the privilege of seeing them as a three piece (Kerry King had just left to return to Slayer, so it was just Dave, David and Gar) in a small club in Berkeley, CA in 1984 - a year before the debut album came out! (James and Lars were even in attendance that night! I was too star struck to talk to them though...)



*edit: here are two pics from the night I saw them:





I mainly checked them out because I knew that Dave had been in Metallica (who I already liked) and based on the strength of the hand drawn original Vic logo (skull and crossbones on ELEVEN!) I had seen on a gig flyer. It was similar to the cover art for the remastered version of KIMB, but it was still quite different...



(i.e. Vic had a helmet on, more blood dripping from the bones, etc.) I wish I still had that original flyer because I loved that drawing! I got rid of it during a purging phase when I was trying to be 'holy' and I haven't been able to find it anywhere online since. The only pic I have left of it is a snapshot of a hand painted copy of it I did on a friend's wall that I will post here when I get home and dig it out of my closet.

*edit: here it is (there's a glare on the wall, so it's hard to see the old logo, but you get the idea):



Here's what the old lettering for the logo looked like:




The 3 song 1984 demo, the live bootleg from the show I saw at Ruthie's Inn in Berkeley and the Killing is My Business debut will always be my favorites and are near and dear to my heart simply because I was there. (Even though I thought the original artwork for KIMB sucked because they didn't use a proper representation of the Vic image that I dug so much...)



But I also love Peace Sells and So Far, So Good, So What? for the same reason because they both contain songs that I heard in their original forms very early on.



Then they released, in my opinion, the horrible remake of Alice Cooper's "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (must have been something in the air, because Judas Priest did a similarly awful cover of "Johnny B. Goode" around that time also) and I thought to myself "uh oh, now that they are in the big leagues, things are starting to fall apart..."



...although I have recently heard the contributions to the Shocker soundtrack of the same period and I was quite pleased.



After that fiasco, I was thrilled to hear their new album and I just love Rust in Peace, though for different reasons than the early stuff. They had REALLY become a force to be reckoned with at that point and since Dave had cleaned up at that point, they really seemed to grow as musicians and songwriters on that one, Countdown to Extinction and Youthanasia. I loved those albums for that reason and I think the lineup was incredibly strong during that period.



I also got to see them on the Youthanasia tour that year and I wondered how different they would be from when I had seen them 12 years earlier as a bar band. They sounded great, but I was a little disappointed in Dave's presentation - mainly since I had heard he was a Christian, but it just didn't seem like it to me from where I was standing. (Keep in mind that I was a fairly new Christian myself and was disappointed easily when others didn't live up to my expectations) Sadly, I pretty much walked away from them at that point for that reason.

Then came Cryptic Writings, Risk and The World Needs a Hero, but I was in the middle of a "holier than them" phase, so I didn't pay much attention to what they were doing during that period. I'm still only into a few cuts from those albums, and I actually find TWNAH to be particularly weak and disappointing.

The next things I heard and really thought they did a great job with were the Black Sabbath covers they did of "Paranoid" and "Never Say Die" on the two volumes of the Nativity in Black Sabbath-tribute albums.



Then, out comes The System Has Failed and it sounds like the Megadeth I had always known and loved, but with a completely new lineup! I was completely psyched with this album and I got to see them live early on tour that year in Phoenix and they were utterly AWESOME! No disappointments this time for me! And, get this: the show was 20 years almost to the DAY of the fist time I had seen them back in 1984! I was very impressed and happy for Dave because he had survived so many changes and now had a great new lineup to return to form with! Then I got to see them a second time that year at Gigantour! They always put on a good METAL show!



And I'm really looking forward to United Abominations now!

And, contrary to the majority opinion, I think the cover art is awesome!

How's that, Addy?

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But I have always loved MEGADETH from the very beginning when I
had the privilege of seeing them as a three piece (Kerry King had just
left to return to Slayer, so it was just Dave, David and Gar) in a
small club in Berkeley, CA in 1984 - a year before the debut album came
out! (James and Lars were even in attendance that night! I was too star
struck to talk to them though...)

THAT'S BAD@SS !!

I'm looking forward to the new album.


I picked up all the reissued version of the albums.

You know I always loved them. I loved the edge. They had more of an edge than metallica. Don't get wrong, Cliff-era Metallica is excellent but Dave always seemed a little more dangerous and on the edge of the movement, pushing it. I agree that the Friedman line up was stellar and Countdown and Youthinasia are classics

I never checked out anything (Risk, Cryptic Writings, etc). This is surprising to me as I was so into them. But I was also living in MT and kinda out of the loop by default. I did get TSHF and I friggin love that disc! Great stuff indeed. I, too, am looking forward to United Abominations

TrogDawn wrote:

I actually find TWNAH to be particularly weak and disappointing.

I too found this album to be sub-par in the "megadeth" department. Sure the addition of Al Pitrelli was nice, but to me, "the world needs a hero" sounded very forced and mundane.

Here are two pics from the night I saw them at Ruthie's Inn, Berkeley, CA 11/3/84:






Here's the hand painted copy of the original logo I made on my friends' bedroom wall (pardon the glare that makes it hard to see the lettering):




Here's what the old lettering looked like for the old logo:

cool

ahh the ol BC Rich unofficial guitar of mid 80s metal

nice

Peace Sells . . . awesome stuff

Awesome pics Troggy! I love Megadeth and I really need to fill out my cd collection! Ive always thought they were better than Metallica from the first time I heard KIMB.

I would have loved to have seen them at a show like you did Trog. Ive seen them twice and both times I was blown away.

I havenm't seen them oce yet

They came to Australi last year... bt only to the east coast

IronGuardian wrote:

I havenm't seen them oce yet

They came to Australi last year... bt only to the east coast

Dood, you really need to listen to them.

I saw them in 1997 when the Misfits opened up for them during the Cryptic Writings tour. I left a half an hour into the set because I was not at all impressed at all by watching them just stand there the whole time. If I wanted to see statutes I would go to the museum......a lot of bands are guilty of this too and I just hate that about them.

friggin' awesome band! One of my favorites!

Anyone else remember the brief period when Dave was doing some live remotes or something for MTV? Oh, my. What fun. IIRC - it was presidential election stuff or something???

I've always been a big fan - but agree - Pitrelli was wasted - they could've done some much better....

The new album should .. kick. butt.



I'm looking forward to seeing them live again!!!

zombiewalkin wrote:

I would have loved to have seen them at a show like you did Trog. Ive seen them twice and both times I was blown away.

IronGuardian wrote:

I haven't seen them once yet

They came to Australia last year... but only to the east coast

Go see them if you get a chance, bro. They put on a great show!

I just found out they will be here supporting HEAVEN AND HELL (aka Black Sabbath w/ Dio) on April 22nd, so I'll be seeing them again soon!

I'd like to see Heaven and Hell

I want the new album and would love to see them live