What is it about Doom Metal...

...that gets your blood pumping?? What gets under your skin and into your soul about it??

For me, its all about the vibe. Not that its "dark" or "evil" sounding. It's just pure & real feeling to me. The chord progressions, the varying sub-genres, the overall presentation of Doom Metal really just pushes all my buttons, musically.

The first Doom Metal song I ever heard (aside from proto-Doom ala Sabbath) was "The Wish" by TROUBLE. This was in 1988 on Z-Rock AM radio in Florida. Z-Rock was an all Metal radio station. Anyway, I had never heard anything like this in my life!! It was so creepy, so desperate sounding & so sincere feeling!! I immediately went & bought whatever TROUBLE cassette I could get my hands on, which was Run To The Light. Obviously, "The Wish" wasn't on this album, but the album itself hit me like a...well, not so much hit me, but it overtook me like a slow, inescapable river of molten emotion!! I played that album, literally, to death (remember how old cassettes would squeak when you played them too many times?). I played it for 4 years until I bought it on CD, swishes, squeaks and all. In that time, I also picked up Psalm 9 & The Skull (YES! I finally had "The Wish"!!). Then a buddy turned me on to CANDLEMASS, then I discovered SOLITUDE AETURNUS in the early 90s, etc.

I love the slow tempos, I love the low tunings, I love the sinister & desperately sad sounding melodies, I love the "screw it" attitude in the image & overall attitudes of the bands...they do this because they love it. There are probably more broke musicians playing Doom than any other Metal genre because Doom has never, ever been about money...Doom is all about art & expression!!

So, DOOM ON my bruthas & sistahs!!! We are few, but we are REAL!!

Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun, Dah dah dah, Doo doo doo, Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun

For me, its all bout slow, insanely low tunings, and HEAVY AS HELL!!

IronGuardian wrote:

Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun, Dah dah dah, Doo doo doo, Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun

For me, its all bout slow, insanely low tunings, and HEAVY AS HELL!!

What band got you into it?

Why I Love Doom...

(or: How I Spend My Psychiatric Vacations)

by Trog L. Dawnington

For me, Sabbath has always been the beginning and the end of DOOM (a generic term I use to encompass the overall vibe of proto-metal, doom-metal and stoner rock). It was their sound, vibe and lyrics that first turned me on like nothing else before or since. When I heard the infectious simplicity of Tony's riffs played with Ozzy wailing lyrics like: Now in darkness, world stops turning/Ashes where the bodies burning/No more war pigs have the power/Hand of God has struck the hour/Day of Judgment, God is calling/On their knees the war pigs crawling/Begging mercies for their sins/Satan laughing spreads his wings/Oh Lord, yeah! I was hooked...instantly. The lyrical imagery and references to God only further intrigued me and were the primary draw for me, not their supposed "satanic" gimmick. I had never heard God referenced in music before! It went right along with my Catholic upbringing at the time and just made sense to me somewhere inside.

Since then, I have always looked to repeat that initial experience and sound via other bands playing in a similar style (Trouble, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Place of Skulls, The Obsessed, Spirit Caravan, The Hidden Hand, Rose, Goliath, Last Chapter, etc). Not only does this music have a sound and a vibe all its own, but the lyrics also deal with topics that are very real in a poetic fashion without pretense or euphemism. That I appreicate very much, especially after the glut of hair metal in the 80's which could seemingly sing about little else than their groins and subsequent conquests of the female of the species. Sabbath and most doom bands don't approach sex with such a casual air, but rather sing about how much they suffer from the reality of love gone wrong, loss and the stark reality of life - turning ugliness into something beautiful and manageable in the process (not unlike the bluesmen of old).

In a nutshell, I love doom because it speaks to me, inspires my own creativity, takes me on subtle and sublime journeys, gives me a place to exist and a comfortable medium to employ when I return home to document my travels.

I love the down tuned guitar sound. So dark, warm, enveloping. (if it's done right) It's also relaxing at the same time, if that makes sense.


For the love of Pete, will you please check out Runemagick???!!!

http://www.runemagick.se/site/index.php?section=downloads%20-%20mp3

Oh yeah, first post.

spectrefate wrote:

I love the down tuned guitar sound. So dark, warm, enveloping. (if it's done right) It's also relaxing at the same time, if that makes sense.


For the love of Pete, will you please check out Runemagick???!!!

http://www.runemagick.se/site/index.php?section=downloads%20-%20mp3

Oh yeah, first post.

YES!!! Spec is in da CAYVE!!!!

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

YES!!! Spec is in da CAYVE!!!!

It's about time! He only signed up TWO MONTHS AGO.

Glad you're here, fathermocker!

spectrefate wrote:

For the love of Pete, will you please check out Runemagick???!!!

http://www.runemagick.se/site/index.php?section=downloads%20-%20mp3

Yeah, I'll download them right now, but I won't listen to them until June.

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

TrogDawn wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

YES!!! Spec is in da CAYVE!!!!

It's about time! He only signed up TWO MONTHS AGO.

Glad you're here, fathermocker!

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

I think I just peed a little...

I GAWTS TRAWG KUMMIN IN DA MAILZ!!!!

TrogDawn wrote:

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

Sweet!

spectrefate wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

Sweet!

Schweet!!

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I think I just peed a little...

Go ahead, let loose! Just make sure you're outside the Cave so you don't disturb our natural musk.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

I GAWTS TRAWG KUMMIN IN DA MAILZ!!!!

Oh no, I won't be kummin in your mail...unless you BEG me to.

spectrefate wrote:

Sweet!

Thanks again for both of you guys' orders - and I'm sorry it took a little extra time. But it's the DOOM way, don't ya know?

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Would anyone else LOVE to hear Cartman sing "War Pigs"?

"GENRALLS GATHEEED IN THEEEY MASSESSSSSSSSSS!!!"

My poor thread has been severely derailed...

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

My poor thread has been severely derailed...

Nah, just momentarily doomed - not off topic at all, really!

TrogDawn wrote:

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

My poor thread has been severely derailed...

Nah, just momentarily doomed - not off topic at all, really!

Crazy Monkey concurs.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

Crazy Monkey concurs.

and Monkey Demon spreads the love.

MONKEY DEMON!!!

He does get around.

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

IronGuardian wrote:

Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun, Dah dah dah, Doo doo doo, Dun dun dun, Dun dun dun

For me, its all bout slow, insanely low tunings, and HEAVY AS HELL!!

What band got you into it?

I was hoping youd be able to tell from my written interpretation of that riff :p

Paramaecium. I enjoyed TD and Sabbath, but was never really into it as anything other than smething to relax too... then I got a copy of Exhumed of the Earth

TrogDawn wrote:

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

The deed is done. Lemme know when you get them!

For me what drew me in was pre-doom. I like the groove and look at deeper themes. CCR's Green River, Cream, The Stones' Paint It Black, Pink Floyd, alll these laid the foundation for me. Even Steve Taylor's Sin for a Season arguably could be a GREAT doom song. So when I read about Trouble in the Illinois Noise issue of Heaven's Metal I had to check them out. I went to the record store and scored The Skull and Psalm 9 on Vinyl. I remember physically shuddering upon first listen but was I hooked! And then that BRILLIANT cover of Tales of Brave Ulysses... Oh man!

Of course I then scooped Run TO The Light and I was a Trouble fanatic by the 1990 S/T. From there it was just a matter of branching out to other bands that caught my fancy

TrogDawn wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

Oh and to both spec and trogshawn, I will be dropping your TD CD orders in the mail after work TODAY.

The deed is done. Lemme know when you get them!

IronGuardian - Yeah, I remember getting my CD of 'Exhumed...' in the mail. It was the slowest, heaviest thing I had ever heard in my life at the time. Shortly after, a buddy let me hear My Dying Bride and it all began to gain perspective. Both Paramaecium & MDB are with me to this day when I'm in the mood for the Doom Death stuff...great bands!

ghosts - Great story! I remember hearing "Green River" & "Paint It Black" growing up alongside "Paranoid" on Rock radio in Richmond VA. I also remember reading about Trouble in Heaven's Metal. I would have loved to get those albums on vinyl back in the day...I was a cassette man.

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

So when I read about Trouble in the Illinois Noise issue of Heaven's Metal I had to check them out. I went to the record store and scored The Skull and Psalm 9 on Vinyl.

Do you still have those vinyl copies, ghosts?

Shawn, have you heard any My Silent Wake?

IronGuardian wrote:

Shawn, have you heard any My Silent Wake?

Yes...and I like them...

Seventh Angel's second album was very Doomy as well...much moreso than the first one...

TrogDawn wrote:

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

So when I read about Trouble in the Illinois Noise issue of Heaven's Metal I had to check them out. I went to the record store and scored The Skull and Psalm 9 on Vinyl.

Do you still have those vinyl copies, ghosts?

sadly no!
Inconsequential as I don't have a turntable anyhoo but still... they were friggin awesome on the ol headphones

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

So when I read about Trouble in the Illinois Noise issue of Heaven's Metal I had to check them out. I went to the record store and scored The Skull and Psalm 9 on Vinyl.

Do you still have those vinyl copies, ghosts?

sadly no!
Inconsequential as I don't have a turntable anyhoo but still... they were friggin awesome on the ol headphones

I can imagine...not to mention the gigantic artwork...

Oh that was the best part for sure. I know friends who had the s/t and Skull on cassette and missed all kinds of details in the artwork haha. Same with King's X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska... I had no idea the band's faces were in the trees until I got the disc LOL

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

Oh that was the best part for sure. I know friends who had the s/t and Skull on cassette and missed all kinds of details in the artwork haha. Same with King's X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska... I had no idea the band's faces were in the trees until I got the disc LOL

I remember that...

Doom touches my soul. I'm a bit of a depressive personality and the slow chug chug brings me light. If I was going to cry to music it would be to My Silent Wake's first album. That crushing, haunting sound with a little mix of death breathes fire in me.

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

TrogDawn wrote:

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

So when I read about Trouble in the Illinois Noise issue of Heaven's Metal I had to check them out. I went to the record store and scored The Skull and Psalm 9 on Vinyl.

Do you still have those vinyl copies, ghosts?

sadly no!
Inconsequential as I don't have a turntable anyhoo but still... they were friggin awesome on the ol headphones

Bummer. I would have gladly taken them off your hands!

Shawn Of Fire wrote:

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

Oh that was the best part for sure. I know friends who had the s/t and Skull on cassette and missed all kinds of details in the artwork haha. Same with King's X Gretchen Goes to Nebraska... I had no idea the band's faces were in the trees until I got the disc LOL

I remember that...

I didn't know that! *runs off to check his copy*

etombdissonance wrote:

Doom touches my soul. I'm a bit of a depressive personality and the slow chug chug brings me light. If I was going to cry to music it would be to My Silent Wake's first album. That crushing, haunting sound with a little mix of death breathes fire in me.

& etomb's back!

E-TOMB!!!!!!!

Good to see you E-tomb.... that dood's the cat's ass lol
Seriously great to see that strange avatar once again

I have a box of vinyl left, including a rarely played copy of Emerald (which recently sold for like $180 on Ebay) I would love to Ebay some of it off (need $$$) but I have no idea about the condition as it applies to vinyl nuts... I pray to God they aren't warped. Last time they saw a turntable would have been around 1992

Hey man, post what you have and maybe I'll help you get rid of some of them.

Thanks guys. Avatar courtesy of Trog I guess.

You can change it any time if you don't like it, mang.

I always provide one for those who don't provide their own...it's the Cave way.

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So you think of me as a smiling catbutt? Hmmmmmm.

etombdissonance wrote:

So you think of me as a smiling catbutt? Hmmmmmm.

Nope, not at all. That was just the strangest looking pic I happened to have in my folder at the time. So strange, that I figured it would prompt you to change it immediately!

TrogDawn wrote:

Hey man, post what you have and maybe I'll help you get rid of some of them.

Yeah, I'll take that Emerald of you hands for you

My vinyl collection is getting lonely, as I haven't got ny new firends for them to play with lately.

Yes but I need $$$ hahaha

I know, without digging that box out, I have California Metal, Emerald, Malachia-Red Sunrise, Barren Cross- Atomic Arena, maybe Rock for The King too, A bunch of Stryper including a limited edition picture disc of YABA as well as the blue Vinyl re-release. I think a picture disc of THWTHD. I have a bunch of Rez, some Keith Green... wow it has been like 16 years since I even looked in that box LOL

I could trade you some modern releases for some of them if you'd like? Save you having to buy the Grave Forsaken album?

I still haven't been able to find a copy of California Metal, not even on cassette.

Had I the spare cash, and if I got the inkling to begin collecting anything, I would collect vinyl. Not necessarily to play, but to have. There are a couple of used vinyl shops around here I would love to pillage.

Vinyl is perfect for collecting, due to the size of the artwork.

I've been totally spazzed on vinyl lately, just like I used to be when I was young. It rules. So much more fun to hold and look at than cd's.

I scored this beauty today:

TrogDawn wrote:

I've been totally spazzed on vinyl lately, just like I used to be when I was young. It rules. So much more fun to hold and look at than cd's.

I scored this beauty today:

Sweet! Is that a live boot, or somethin?

Looks like a live boot

I wonder how it sounds?