How come the cover of every hard rock album circa 68-72.....

.....claims that THIS BAND invented hard rock?

Apparently Iron Butterfly, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Uriah Heep ALL single handedly invented hard rock.

....and apparently Nirvana uninvented it....

....and apparently Metallica, Motorhead, Slayer, Anvil, and Venom ALL
single handedly invented this "trash" metal that I keep hearing about!



... I could go on. Stop me when I get too annoying ... but don't be
surprised if I respond with the following emoticon when you do:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

.....claims that THIS BAND invented hard rock?

Apparently Iron Butterfly, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Uriah Heep ALL single handedly invented hard rock.

It's a time/space continuum thing, you wouldn't understand...

Nonsense!



I am currently unlocking new realms within my mind by listening to Iron Butterfly and Atomic Rooster!



You'd be surprised at the things you can understand while in the grips
of full-on directionless musical wandering, late-60s style!!!

What's the problem then?

I am getting dangerously close to overdosing!



Maybe some dirty stanky old Skynyrd will even me out ...

Or maybe some Kyna...if I ever get around to mailing it to you...

Knock yerself out kid! 8)

IMO,It starts with Hendrix,Cream, and then the Marshall stacking punch holes in the very air itself approach of Blue Cheer.Ever heard the original longer version of "Summertime Blues"(68), and of course "In a Gadda Da Vida",to me that was the turning point,then the birth of hard rock/ metal and doom with Sabbath,Uriah Heep, and Purple.

I've thought about this issue way, way too much and I've concluded that it's a continum; with many bands contributing different aspects and no clearly definable "first".
I think of Jim Morrison's image, The Kinks riffs, the creativity of Hendrix, and the sheer volume of Blue Cheer all as valid contributions. And I've just re-discovered Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 1962-66, and realized that they played a part too. So I think anybody who takes credit for the whole phenomenon is lying. It's actually still evolving to this day.

Teargas71 wrote:

I've thought about this issue way, way too much and
I've concluded that it's a continum; with many bands contributing
different aspects and no clearly definable "first".
I think of Jim
Morrison's image, The Kinks riffs, the creativity of Hendrix, and the
sheer volume of Blue Cheer all as valid contributions. And I've just
re-discovered Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 1962-66, and realized that
they played a part too. So I think anybody who takes credit for the
whole phenomenon is lying. It's actually still evolving to this
day.

Hmmmmmmmmmm ... so what you're saying is ...

Hard rock has not yet been invented and it is the way of the future! Cool! No wonder I'm so confused.

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Teargas71 wrote:

I've thought about this issue way, way too much and I've concluded that it's a continuum; with many bands contributing different aspects and no clearly definable "first".

I think of Jim Morrison's image, The Kinks riffs, the creativity of Hendrix, and the sheer volume of Blue Cheer all as valid contributions. And I've just re-discovered Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 1962-66, and realized that they played a part too. So I think anybody who takes credit for the whole phenomenon is lying. It's actually still evolving to this day.

Hmmmmmmmmmm ... so what you're saying is ...

Hard rock has not yet been invented and it is the way of the future! Cool! No wonder I'm so confused.

I *told* you it was a time/space continuum thing, but you just hadda argue with me!



Oh, and PM ME YOUR MAILING ADDRESS AT SCHOOL BECAUSE THE PILE OF MUSIC I HAVE FOR YOU ISN'T GETTING ANY SMALLER!!!

Well, yeah. There are several Italian symphonic prog bands from around 1970 (Alphataurus, Balleto Il Bronzo, etc.) that use operetic vocals and heavy riffs. It's more like some of the newer symphonic stuff than any of the hard rock from that era ever was. If the current batch of symphonic bands had ever heard them, I'm sure they would have been an influence, but I doubt they ever actually did. The only possible explaination has to involve quantum mechanics.

We ALL know Heavy Metal was invented by Liberace! Now stop argueing!!!

Why is it every hard rock band from 67 onwards claims to be the first band to called Heavy Metal ? The most annoying one is Alice Cooper who claims he was the first after a comment in a Rolling Stone Article in 72. The earliest one i am aware of is a story about Jimi Hendrix in a british magazine in 68 who said Jimi's guitar sounds like Heavy Metal falling from the sky.