Pentagram

I *REALLY* love the POS stuff I've been able to find. . . Which would be The Black is Never Far & Nailed.

How about Pentagram? What's the best stuff? :)

I picked up First Daze Here Too & Turn To Stone - listening now. . .

:)

:bounce:

Turn to Stone is a good comp of some of the best stuff from the three albums Victor played on, Pentagram (aka Relentless), Day of Reckoning and Be Forewarned.

First Daze Here Too is the second volume of material from the early seventies version of PENTAGRAM, which was never officially released until this collection came out a few years ago. It's very different from the stuff that Victor played on, but their early seventies heaviness is awesome in its own right.

The albums with Victor are my favorites, followed by the two volumes of the early material. The releases after Victor left are good too, but they are not nearly as far under my skin as the other stuff.

Oh yikes. I mean that in a good way.

Just switched over from First Daze to Turn to Stone. . . way better!!!!! Much more what I expected! Ok, I must just like Victor!

The First Daze was good - in a 70's rock kinda way - but this (Turn to Stone) is Really Good!

Ahhhhhh.

Thanks!!!!

N/P

The early stuff will grow on you if you give it a chance, but I agree that the Victor era stuff is more immediately accessible. What do you think of "Petrified"? (the cd opener) It's one of my fave songs from them and I will be covering it on the next TD album.

THe different versions of the band totally confused me at first, but I think I got it now.

TrogDawn wrote:

(the cd opener) It's one of my fave songs from them and I will be covering it on the next TD album.

Can't wait!



@ _Wes: it's awesome that you're discovering Pentagram. The Turn to
Stone comp is a comp of the band's first three albums with Victor
Griffin. The three albums have recently been reissued (in the past two
years or so). Personally, I think Relentless, Day of Reckoning, and Be
Forwarned are three absolute classic doom essentials. The Turn to Stone
comp is very good, but if you get the albums, you'll have about twice
as many songs from that era ... highly reccommended if you like the
sound. At the moment, Relentless is my fav, but that tends to change
and the others are excellent as well.

Sweet. Yes - it's all good so far.

So good in fact, I went back & cranked The Black is Never Far for the commute home.

:D

_Wes wrote:

Sweet. Yes - it's all good so far.

So good in fact, I went back & cranked The Black is Never Far for the commute home.

Awesome. I actually got into Pentagram first, and have only recently gotten the Black is Never Far through our main man Randy ... errr ... yeah!



It's almost like this board is part of some kind of ... global ... doom ... domination ... conspiracy ... hmmmmmmmm ...

I've been grooving quite a LOT lately on the Be Forewarned album.
Particularly the track "Too Late"!

Yeah,cool imagery in that one,and The World Will.Victor wrote a couple of the numerous vampire related songs.Wonder if he ever thinks about ,back then he was writing about drinking blood,crosses and the undead and now he writes about drinking blood,crosses and the undead, a trip huh? I wonder who actually started the whole vampire mythology,I know the Dracula legend was based in part on a true story but little else,does anybody have any knowledge on this subject.Seems like an interesting one considering the time of year.

sabbsteve wrote:

Yeah,cool imagery in that one,and The World Will.Victor wrote a couple
of the numerous vampire related songs.Wonder if he ever thinks about
,back then he was writing about drinking blood,crosses and the undead
and now he writes about drinking blood,crosses and the undead, a trip
huh? I wonder who actually started the whole vampire mythology,I know
the Dracula legend was based in part on a true story but little
else,does anybody have any knowledge on this subject.Seems like an
interesting one considering the time of year.

dood! Actually, when I was younger, I read a non-fiction book, I think
entitled "Real Vampires", can't remember the author (or if that's the
right name), but it was a historical retrospective on vampire legends
throughout history. It actually traced back the roots of all the
aspects of vampirism, like turning into bats, wherewolves, different
places that vampires have historically been said to drink blood, how it
came about that they are said to hide from light, etc. I read that book
probably a decade ago now, I wish I still had it, now that you bring up
that subject. I'll take a look for it next time I hit the bookstore!

Sounds interesting,I was just wondering about the origins because of all the Christian parallels and the seemingly Catholic overtones with the fear of the cross and things.Hands down though for me "Sign Of The Wolf"is one of Pentagram's best songs ever and definitely the best one about werewolves.Maybe Trog can shed some more light(LOL) about it.

Wes,

I wouldn't judge the earlier PENTAGRAM band by the
First Daze Here Too cd as that is the second compilation
of that era. It has some good stuff on it, but First Daze Here
is KILLER. It's a way stronger representation of the earlier
PENTAGRAM band. It's definitely one of my top PENTAGRAM
albums. With Relentless coming in second..

There's no PENTAGRAM like the seventies...

I just picked up Day Of Reckoning today.

brontotex wrote:

I just picked up Day Of Reckoning today.

Cool man! AWESOME album! Which version did you get? (there are 3)

1987 - Napalm Records
(vinyl only w/ orig. cover, orig. track order, orig. drum tracks and orig. mix)



1993 - Peaceville Records
(first cd issue w/ new cover, new tracklist, new drum tracks and new mix)



2007 - Peaceville Records
(re-issue of 1993 tracklist/mix, but w/ altered orig. cover art and remastered? in a digipack)

The newest remastered digi pack one. It's good stuff, by the way.

brontotex wrote:

The newest remastered digi pack one. It's good stuff, by the way.

Yeah, it's a killer album - glad you're diggin' it. If you like that one, you gotta pick up Relentless - the one right before it. That one's even better!

It also has three versions:

1987 - Pentagram Records (originally titled Pentagram)
(vinyl only w/ orig. cover, orig. track order and orig. mix)



1993 - Peaceville Records
(first cd issue w/ new title (Relentless), new cover, new tracklist, and new mix)



2007 - Peaceville Records
(re-issue of 1993 tracklist/mix, but w/ slightly altered replacement cover art and remastered? in a digipack)



Sorry for the glut of information...

Oh and the next one: Be Forewarned, is also awesome but don't worry, it didn't have multiple versions!

Almost as many versions as Crimson Thorn and their albums

Pentagram they're a christian rock band right?

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

Pentagram they're a christian rock band right?

Yeah, they appear to be attempting the Rackets & Drapes approach -- write songs using as much offensive rhetoric as possible and then use convoluted twisted logic to explain their "message"

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

Pentagram they're a christian rock band right?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Actually, some of the lyrics might surprise you...there was a definite influence there at times - not unlike Sabbath.

One of my favorite doom bands. Day Of Reckoning is my all time fav or theirs.

Dood, I just heard Be Forewarned on youtube. I can't explain how I came to love doom so much. I've gotten more enjoyment out of doom than thrash or death metal in recent months.

Check THIS shit out!!!

https://www.facebook.com/editprofile.php?sk=contact&success=1#!/photo.php?fbid=2507400138837&set=a.1815532962590.95326.1668085167&type=1

Black Sabbath, Pentagram and Saint Vitus (among others) all on the same bill in France at the 3 day HELLFEST in France in June of 2012!!! I am GOING!



Black Sabbath, Pentagram and Saint Vitus all on the same bill in France at HELLFEST in June of 2012!!!

TrogDawn wrote:

Check THIS shit out!!!

https://www.facebook.com/editprofile.php?sk=contact&success=1#!/photo.php?fbid=2507400138837&set=a.1815532962590.95326.1668085167&type=1

Black Sabbath, Pentagram and Saint Vitus (among others) all on the same bill in France at the 3 day HELLFEST in France in June of 2012!!! I am GOING!



Black Sabbath, Pentagram and Saint Vitus all on the same bill in France at HELLFEST in June of 2012!!!

Hell yeah!!!!! One of my friends went a couple of years ago and had a great time