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PostSubject: Type O Negative   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:59 pm

Someone tell me about them. I've only heard one song ("Christian Woman") and, believe it or not, that one song's sound actually had a slight impact on Troglodyte Dawn in the very beginning. The lyrics of that song were kind of harsh towards their subject matter though, so I kind of avoided them since I was extremely touchy and sensitive at the time I first heard them (1995 or so). But I think I'm past that now and I'm thinking abuot checking into some of their stuff.

Strig, I know you are a big fan, can you give me the lowdown on these guys? What's their trip? Do you consider them doomy or more of a goth-type sound? What are some of your favorite songs/albums? I have recently downloaded a couple of their Black Sabbath covers for a comp I'm making - did they do well with those?

Inquiring Troggish's want to know!

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:04 pm

cool sounding band IMO kinda negative though hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:07 pm

if you like Type O, then Check out Carnivore, Steele's band prior to ToN. heavy, bombastic, neanderthal metal at it's best.
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:36 pm

I actually don't own anything by them, but have been meaning to get into them for YEARS. You know how that goes...

A friend of mine is a GIGANTIC type-o fan, so though I don't own their
stuff, I've heard their music quite a bit, and I do like their sound.
The "goth" label that they have is actually not very just, if you ask
me. It's more like a mellow sludge/doom/VERY Sabbath-inspired with a
goth overtone. They are one of those bands whose appeal is ruined not
by their music but by their fans, as I seem to think they're on the
"trendy" end of the goth spectum. But really, they're just a bunch of
unnapreciative New York assholes (seriously, the band members are
COMPLETE assssssholes) who keep releasing albums. And they've got quite
a cool sound if you ask me.



Thought I'd also add that they do some cool covers. Other than Sabbath,
they have covered The Beatles, Santana, and a few others.
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:32 am

Yes, they are one of my favorite bands of all time. No, it's not because of Peter Steele - contrary to most people's belief regarding 'that'. Razz

They dub themselves 'the drab four' for obvious reasons. They can be dull and lifeless on stage (saw them four times, and each time their mood was different), but their music speaks for itself.

My favorite album of theirs by far is 'World Coming Down'. It is the epitome of doom to me. It's very sad, full of remorse, bitterness, loss, pain...all of the elements are there. The music is low, slow, and deep. A perfect 'mood' for doom.

'Origin of the Feces' is a riot - a fake live album. I'M NOT WORTHY! Gotta love the concept. ROFL It has a lot of betrayal and anger in it. That hits a chord with me as well. I'd say that's my second favorite. And their cover of "Paranoid" is one of the best covers of anything I've ever heard. Dare I say better than Black Sabbath's version? *ducks* The subject matter is best sung in Type O's style.


EVERYONE disputes the mere thought of them being classified as 'doom'. I can understand that because their earlier albums are so 'goth' it isn't even funny - wine, roses, and all that jazz. Haha

My first album of theirs was 'World Coming Down'. And it helped me through some really difficult times when spouse bit the dust. Some good sonic therapy for me. A lot of their songs are extremely tongue in cheek and rather cheesy, but it's good to see they don't take their goth image so seriously. Haha

They are what they are. Take them or leave them. I prefer to take them. GEEN!

And Carnivore? A complete male ego trip. I love it. cool beans! Although I only have the one album. I listened to samples of the second one on Amazon.com to see if I wanted to buy it or not...the sound of someone throwing up is not my idea of 'music', so I passed on that one. What's that song called..."Jack Daniels and Pizza" or something? Laughing

Ok...I'm DONE babbling. Icky Bleck! Anything else you wanna know? Cheeky
By the way...this bit of rubbish is just my opinion. I know nothing about music. Big Smile



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unnapreciative New York assholes


Yep! True on that one!! Winky

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:55 am

I got into TYPE O NEGATIVE with their album Slow, Deep and Hard.
So, that one is my favorite. Then Bloody Kisses. I like those because
Peter would still inject a little CARNIVORE into them.

However, the first version of Bloody Kisses had two cool songs..
"Kill All The White People" and "We Hate Everyone" that were
deleted on the rerelease of that album which kinda sucked. I always
thought Peter was kinda doing that to maybe not catch so much flack..

I tried to listen to October Rust, but I couldn't get into it..

Out of Peter's work, I like his band CARNIVORE best. Specifically
the album Retaliation! Yeah Strig, Jack Daniels and Pizza! Winky

The lyrics on that album are absolutely designed to provoke people
and make them mad. This is the perfect album to play to your "progressive"
friends who are self righteous and politcally "correct".

Carnivore have actually been playing a few reunion shows, but none around
me..

Carnivore's Myspace

http://myspace.com/carnivoresovietbrooklyn
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:07 am

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However, the first version of Bloody Kisses had two cool songs..
"Kill All The White People" and "We Hate Everyone" that were
deleted on the rerelease of that album which kinda sucked. I always
thought Peter was kinda doing that to maybe not catch so much flack..

Maybe the first version wasn't 'goth' enough for their average cape-wearing fans. Winky But "Suspended in Dusk" on the second version sure makes up for those other songs. And "Black No. 1" ?? It's awesome just because of what it is. Laughing

It was so funny...I couldn't find anyone to go see Type O with one time, so I dragged my sister-in-law. She's a petite perky blonde. She's clicking away in her high heels and red raincoat. We were walking up to the venue. Some guys were standing on a loading dock and one said "Nice coat." His voice was dripping with sarcasm. Shocked She turned around and said, "Thanks!" Then smiled. Oh god, I thought we were going to die. She surely does not fit in the mold of the stereotypical Type O Negative fan. She never heard them before but said she enjoyed the music. After the show, she did comment to me that she'd never seen so much leather and long hair in one place. I couldn't help but laugh!! Laughing

@ Troggish You asked what some of my favorite songs are?
World Coming Down
...A Dish Best Served Coldly
Suspended in Dusk (great - I can't help it Razz )
All Hallows Eve
Everyone I Love is Dead
Anesthesia
Life is Killing Me
Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of Infidelity

So I go more for the gloomy/doomy songs (naturally). There isn't too much that I don't like, really.

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:22 pm

I just came across this interview with Peter..

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1553370/20070227/type_o_negative.jhtml

Here is a quote from the interview..

His mother's death, Steele said, was a major eye-opener for him, and it made him "realize my own mortality. That's why this forthcoming album has more of a punky, hardcore edge, because I'm pissed off at life 'cause I know I'm going to f---ing die. I just want to beat up the reaper." Still, the singer said, Dead Again which is set for a March 13 release is perhaps Type O's "least negative" work to date.

"I just want to beat up the reaper!" CLASSIC! Laughing


I may go see Type O on this upcoming tour. Brand New Sin is opening up the show
I would goto.. of course the mighty CELTIC FROST (!!) joins the tour later.. of course.. Furious
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:04 pm

Thanks to all of you for the input! cool beans!

@ strig: I know you love them, so I was most interested to hear your thoughts. An impassioned but balanced response, just as I anticipated. Winky

I might download a few songs based on all of your suggestions and see what I think. I'll let you know. Troggish

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:36 pm

TrogDawn wrote:
Thanks to all of you for the input! cool beans!

@ strig: I know you love them, so I was most interested to hear your thoughts. An impassioned but balanced response, just as I anticipated. Winky

I might download a few songs based on all of your suggestions and see what I think. I'll let you know. Troggish

I can't believe I rambled on like that! Shocked Highly unlike me.
At least I came across as "balanced". That's an accoomplishment. GEEN!

Yeah, give a wider spectrum of their music a chance. That one song in particular...eh...not a very good 'sample representation' of their work.

Celtic Frost???? Drooling...

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:23 pm

I do like that particular song though, I just hate what it has to say. Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:59 pm

strigoi wrote:


And Carnivore? A complete male ego trip. I love it. cool beans! Although I only have the one album. I listened to samples of the second one on Amazon.com to see if I wanted to buy it or not...the sound of someone throwing up is not my idea of 'music', so I passed on that one. What's that song called..."Jack Daniels and Pizza" or something? Laughing

definitely not one of the albums highlights, "angry neurotic catholics" is probably the best song I've ever heard Steele sing on......interestingly enough..his bass tone, at elast to my ears, has not changed one bit since his days in Carnivore.
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:38 am

All of his vocals on Retaliation are pretty sick. Like on the song "Inner Conflict"..

Yeah, he pretty much has kept the distorted bass sound..
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:47 pm

there ain't nothing quite as enjoyable, or laughable as Pete's vox on the Retaliation album

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:09 pm

Check out this link for a discussion thread at the CMR where there is news to suggest that Peter Steele has rediscovered his roots of faith:

http://p202.ezboard.com/fthechristianmetalrealmfrm1.showMessage?topicID=28395.topic

Have you heard anything about this, strigoi? Can these rumors be confirmed or denied? Huh?

Pretty cool if it's true! cool beans!

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:04 am

It won't let me in - I'm not a member. Evil or Very Mad
I guess anything is possible. His mother died recently. I dunno
Oh...it MUST be true...it's on the internet. Winky Just kidding. GEEN!

Egads! They're coming to Pittsburgh! Manic
Hmm...I wonder where the Rex Theatre is... Huh?

Some of their new material is on MySpace. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:45 pm

Type O are a great band dude-perfect crossover between goth and doom!
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:23 am

Excellent to see you here Ian!!!

Interesting avatar.... LOL

So do you like the latest Type-o album? Thoughts....
I haven't given it close enough attention yet
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:57 am

Downloading some tracks (including the new cd) right now...

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:14 am

I got the new one - Dead Again - and some other various tracks for a small comp. cool beans!

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:16 am

ghosts of athanasius wrote:
Excellent to see you here Ian!!!

Interesting avatar.... LOL

So do you like the latest Type-o album? Thoughts....
I haven't given it close enough attention yet

Yes it's great like all their albums! I think it is excellent. My favourite album is still October Rust though.
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:19 am

TrogDawn wrote:
I got the new one - Dead Again - and some other various tracks for a small comp. cool beans!

Some great stuff on there mate, but you must hear Wolf Moon, Haunted, Black no 1, and just about everything they have ever done really to be on the safe side.
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:23 am

silentwake wrote:

Yes it's great like all their albums! I think it is excellent. My favourite album is still October Rust though.

that would seem to be the consensus
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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:59 pm

TrogDawn wrote:
I got the new one - Dead Again - and some other various tracks for a small comp. cool beans!

You're on a roll, now! Betcha won't be able to stop. Winky Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Type O Negative   Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:53 pm

I dunno, seeing photos of Mr. Steele whipping it out for Playgirl while I was online searching for TYPO images didn't really push me in the "can't get enough" direction... oh RLY?

But I'll probably continue my exploration anyway... Winky

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