any BLACK METAL fans?

We had a good discussion on the topic of death metal a bit ago ... courtesy of the following post:

Quote :

My favorite genre and many times it's not too
far from doom. In fact, groups like Ashen Mortality, some Mortification
and Pantokrator blur the lines a lot. I love it fast and I love it
slowed and heavy.

Thought that while we were on the subject, I'd start a thread about my favorite genre, black metal.

I believe that black metal is VERY much related to doom. In fact, most
black metal bands tend to vary their tempos from very fast to extremely
slow. Case in point ... listen to most anything Darkthrone has done.

In a bit I'll make a post about my thoughts on black metal, but for now
I thought I'd just throw the question out there and get a discussion
going. What black metal do you guys like and why do you like it? Is
there anyone out there who, like me, enjoy black metal because it is so similiar to doom?

EDIT: Changed the "z" in the title because it was driving me nuts

Lately I've been listening to more doom orientated black metal, and by that I mean the more melodic, atmospheric side of things, rather than the raw sounding stuff.

Synnove, Fearscape and Miseration have been high up in my playlist of late. I recently picked up some Dark Lay Still which is quite good.

I don't forsake the raw side though, and I own a copy of every single version of everything Horde have currently released

Myself and Phile Diez of Sorrowstorm have a black metal project called Northern Ash, I vary our song dynamics quite a bit. We mix black/thrash and death together, I'm not sure if I added any doom elements to our stuff or not......

http://www.myspace.com/northash

Popergeist wrote:

Myself and Phile Diez of Sorrowstorm have a black
metal project called Northern Ash, I vary our song dynamics quite a
bit. We mix black/thrash and death together, I'm not sure if I added
any doom elements to our stuff or not......

http://www.myspace.com/northash

Wow, I've done a LOT of research on Christian black metal throughout
the years, and my search has yielded a LOT of super-underground
projects that most here probably don't know of ... that said, I never
knew about this project! I'm listening to it right now though, and I
can say that it's pretty decent. I'll keep listening to the rest of it
though for a better overview.

IronGuardian wrote:

Lately I've been listening to more doom
orientated black metal, and by that I mean the more melodic,
atmospheric side of things, rather than the raw sounding stuff.

Synnove,
Fearscape and Miseration have been high up in my playlist of late. I
recently picked up some Dark Lay Still which is quite good.

I don't forsake the raw side though, and I own a copy of every single version of everything Horde have currently released

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... interesting take on the subject, because I have
*personally* found much more doom influence among the raw black metal
than among the melodic or atmospheric variety.

Case in point ... anyone here heard of the band CRAFT? They are a great
newer (post-2000) black metal act in the vein of early Darkthrone
(though without being a ripoff, IMO). They display a lot of the same
doom influence that Darkthrone did in their early days.

Ah, I see your point. I prefer my doom to have a melodic edge, such as My Silent Wake and Paramaecium, rather than just feeling empty and desolate.

candlemass could be a great black metal band if they played faster and their vocalist shrieked.

HEAVEN FORBID!!

Enslaved is one of my favorites of any genre. I also love Satyricon, Ancient, Emperor, Dissection, and Arcturus. There are others I am sure that I can't think of right now.

Frost Like Ashes is really good as well.

IronGuardian, do you really think of Miseration as BM? I always thought of them as a modern technical thrash/death.

I like some BM, say Dissection and Darkthrone and even some Crimson Moonlight.

Bathory (the fathers for sure..)
Dark Throne (carrying the banner!!)
Ved Buens Ende (one album and it's classic)
Enslaved (Below The Lights rules..)
Ulver (early stuff)
Root (totally unorthodox with each album)
Sigh (another band that progressed with each album)

As far as Christian stuff..

Stronghold (the closet to Darkthrone's sound)
Antestor (Especially The Forsaken)
Crimson Moonlight (The Covenant Progress)
Slechtvalk (The War That Plagues The Land)
Arvinger (Helgards Fall)
Kekal (started out as black metal and really progressed with each album)

I used to be a great BM fan, but both the mentality in the scene AND the impressive amount of musical shitte released for the past 10 years simply dropped me out of the genre. Currently I still listen to

Enslaved (only the Mardraum and beyond period : Monumension is one of the underrated gems in the genre)
Dimmu Borgir (even if they're less and less BM and that their last album was a damn let down)
Immortal (better than Darkthrone imo, more ambiances)
Arcturus
Cradle Of Filth(up until Cruelty And The Beast included)
Viking era Bathory
Emperor

Depressive BM...sorry, but I find that as utterly ridiculous as hateful Doom. I mean, in the basics, BM is about hatred (whatever the one), right? So hearing guys shrieking stuff like

My girl left meeeeeeeeeeee
And I don't know how to coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeuargh-ook
For the freezer *oh, the freezer* it don't woooooooooooooooooooooorgh-orks!!!
And I'm hungrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
In the cold frost-ridden forest of December
I'm so alooooooooooooooooooone
I'm gonna slit my wriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiists
Because I don't knoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeuargh-ow
How the washing machiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiargh!!! Machine!!!
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!
It works!!!!

Well, for that they should play Doom instead imo^^

Maybe it has to with getting older,I briefly got into some Christian black metal,Antestor would be my fave of those,I would consider Paramecium to be doom/death, but on this subject I am the first to say I don't really know that much about it.I'm not a fanatic but if the lyrics are hail satan style it ruins it ,its not that its "offensive",my opinion on that is that God made the thunder and no matter how loud and blasphemous the band ,is its still like a temper tantrum to Him.I do like the sound.This is an odd statement I know but for me its kind of like broccoli,I mainly prefer it in small amounts,bands like Sirenia,Trail Of Tears and Orphanage use it for effect.I do agree that there is somewhat of a connection with doom,but band for band,IMO ,doom definitely has better lyrics,even when its about a different subject. I can sometimes find a connection,some of the Vitus songs about drinking and drugs can at times pertain to my own thoughts,just that general "black cloud " feeling..Now I would be opened minded toward a band that blended those styles, and wasn't Christian,that had more meaningful lyrics that might somehow pertain to my life or told dark stories objectively,but the truth is I don't really know that much about the genre,teach on Kid Gloom..........

I just find all the shrieking gay and girlish

Thats one of the things I like about the bands I mentioned,there are beautiful female vocals balancing out the shrieks, and yeah.... that possible element too ,is why I want to know exactly whats going on lyrically, some of those bands could bring new meaning to the old Martyr song title.....wait for it......"No Goats"

MArtyr? NOW YOU ARE TALKING MY LANGUAGE!!!!

except their song if it was about bm would be Blow Goats

BINGO........I wonder if Bin Laden likes any black metal

I recently picked up the last two Holy Blood albums and really like their mix of Black/Folk they use. Only Ukrainian band I know of too.

etombdissonance wrote:

I recently picked up the last two Holy Blood
albums and really like their mix of Black/Folk they use. Only Ukrainian
band I know of too.

There are many Ukranian black metal bands out there, I actually like
Ukranian black metal quite a bit. It tends to have a unique flavor to
it.

You've also got Angel 7 from the Ukraine as well.

Angel 7 Website

Since many on this board are Christians, one Ukranian black metal band I know of is the Christian band Evroklidon. Very minimalist, kind of Burzum-influenced slow to mid-paced music as well as a dose of the Transylvanian Hunger type influence. As far as I know, they only have one album -- The Flame of Sodom. It's nothing extremely special, but it's good solid black metal, especially worthwhile for those looking for Christian-themed stuff. Actually, it's in the vein of a lot of the black metal coming from Ukraine, for those who are interested in examining black metal from the standpoint of nationality.

Northern Ash and Sorrowstorm both have albums that are available from Sullen Records/Open Grave records...and there are literally 20 copies left of each.

linkage
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=11189
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=11188
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11193
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=11192
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=11190
http://www.opengraveshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=11191
http://www.nhmetal.com/cgi-local/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=00234CD
http://www.nhmetal.com/cgi-local/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=00233CD

concerning Northern Ash--Never heard of this band! What kind of black metal are they, and is it good, compared to other great black metal bands out there? Honestly dood, I'm VERY picky with my black metal. It is one of my favorite genres, yeah, but there is still a LOT of crappy BM out there that doesn't catch my ear at all ... so just wondering where these guys fall...

concerning Sorrowstorm--
I downloaded their "Complete Works" album a while back when it was available for free on their website. Pretty mediocre stuff, IMO. Typical Brazillian extreme black metal with a dose of Dark Funeral influence ... not really up my alley. They're ok, I guess, when they're not using keyboards, but I honestly didn't like these guys much. The EP was much better than the album though, IMO.

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

Popergeist wrote:

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

oh dood, didn't realize you were in the band. my bad!

So now that you know, you can stay away from it

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

oh dood, didn't realize you were in the band. my bad!

Not a lot of people know I am de founder of Northern Ash.

Popergeist wrote:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

oh dood, didn't realize you were in the band. my bad!

Not a lot of people know I am de founder of Northern Ash.

Good to know man, I had no idea! BTW, now that I visit the page & listen to the MP3's, I think I realized I have heard of Northern Ash before, probably a few months ago when I wnt on anextensive search for all of the Christian black metal I could find....

And after hearing Northern Ash you kept looking, right?

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

oh dood, didn't realize you were in the band. my bad!

Not a lot of people know I am de founder of Northern Ash.

Good to know man, I had no idea! BTW, now that I visit the page & listen to the MP3's, I think I realized I have heard of Northern Ash before, probably a few months ago when I wnt on anextensive search for all of the Christian black metal I could find....

you did, now return to page one of this thread and read your posts again ROFL

Yeah, but that was back in June

Popergeist wrote:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

Popergeist wrote:

http://www.myspace.com/northash

preview before you buy
melodic black metal with hints of thrash and death metal, though i am
not sure where we fall into the genre seeing as how i am not privy to
the classifications in teh subgenres. but if we do fall anywhere it is
probably somewhere between completely retarded and utterly insane. I
write and record all of the music [that in itself is both retarded and insane lol] so you can expect a ton of melody and some genre cross contamination in the form of thrash and death metal.

oh dood, didn't realize you were in the band. my bad!

Not a lot of people know I am de founder of Northern Ash.

Good
to know man, I had no idea! BTW, now that I visit the page & listen
to the MP3's, I think I realized I have heard of Northern Ash before,
probably a few months ago when I wnt on anextensive search for all of
the Christian black metal I could find....

you did, now return to page one of this thread and read your posts again ROFL

WAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!

I was actually wondering "what the heck does page 1 have to do with
this??" as I went back and read my posts ... I was about 2 seconds away
from returning back to this page to ask that question when I noticed
the post you are referring to.

Hilarious man, I am sorry. Yeah, uh ... hmmm ... *attempts to think up a good excuse for being so retarded/forgetful* ... uh .... yeah dood ... uhh ... *keeps thinking* ... well yeah sure I knew then, but of course ... *wheels turning, wheels turning* ... uhhh ... I ... uh.. .. forgot???

Hahah, how's THAT for a good excuse?? It's GOODLIKE, SOLIDOUS &
FOOLPROOFISHLY WATERTIGHTEROUS, ain't it?? I know, I know, I'm really
good at this sort of thing. LOL man haha.

I'm gonna go with Jeffdls's proxy excuse for me-- THAT WAS BACK IN JUNE MAN!! YOU EXPECT ME TO REMEMBER THAT??? Yo yo!!

*slips Jeffdls a theoretical 20-dollar cyberbill for his quick wit and watertight sense of rationality*

Always here to save the day, that De Los Santos mang!!

BTW, with my newly-updated and superiorily technologically advanced and all inclusive
Microsoft Excell-based CD collection
list/database/file/document/thingie, I think I'll take it upon myself
to post a list of my favorite black metal bands (*note, ++!!favorites
only!!++ of course*)

I shall do this at a time in the near future, and in another post. Wrap your minds around that and PREPARE YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY, GRIMLY CYBER-COMMUNICATIVE BLACK METALISH INTERNET MATEYS!!!

[and DO NOT, I repeat DOOOO NOOTT say I didn't warn ye, yez stinkin buzzardous bazztards]

I
know, this technology is light-years ahead of any of your
understandings ... sorry, you have to understand that I can't help it!!
-- Being super smart and pretty much better than everyone with regard
to every aspect of life and philosophy is just part of who I am! Don't
feel bad. I am LE MASTER!!!

I mean, riddle me this dudezzzezzz
.... why else would I, THE POSTMASTER DOOG, have laid claim to THE BEST
emoticon in the whole collection?? Don't believe me?

BEHOLD THE AWESOMEST EMOTICON EVVVERRRR!!!!

[and it's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL mine!!!!!!!!!!!!]







(ha ha, sorry guys, it appears I am in a *mood* of sorts today )

THE POINT OF THIS POST???
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You guys should all do the same!! List your favorite black metal bands and discussion will ensue.

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

I'm gonna go with Jeffdls's proxy excuse for me-- THAT WAS BACK IN JUNE MAN!! YOU EXPECT ME TO REMEMBER THAT??? Yo yo!!

*slips Jeffdls a theoretical 20-dollar cyberbill for his quick wit and watertight sense of rationality*

Always here to save the day, that De Los Santos mang!!

I remembered and....uh....*coughs* stuff.

What is this thread about again??

HUGE black metal fan here! Some of my faves:

...And Oceans (early)
Borknagar
Dark Fortress
Crimson Moonlight
Equilibrium (sorta folk-black)
Kampfar
Frosthardr
Drottnar
Immortal
Horde
Naglfar
Tidfall

I think black metal is loaded with fantastic metal musician, although it can be a bit difficult to take the genre seriously at times, I think that in particular a lot of the satanic imagry is an act.

You should check out Elgibbor. Pretty good stuff. And Frost Like Ashes as well.

will do! thanks for the recommendation, i'm always on the lookout for hearing more bands!

I have recently started checking out black metal a bit more. I heard some Summoning videos on youtube that just blew me away,

Might want to check out Deborah (Mexico) and Firethrone.

Grave Declaration - The Nightshift Worshipper