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PostSubject: Let's talk albums   Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:38 pm

I am guessing Sacrificium is the overwhelming fav although I know many prefer The Healing

I personally think Into The Unknown was pretty good. I really liked it and I am surprised at how underrated it is. Thoughts?Veddy interrresting
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:49 pm

I love all three you mentioned almost equally. :thumbsup: WAY UP!

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:03 am

Here's a little info on the recording of 'Into The Unknown'...




'Into The Unknown' was actually recorded during the summer of '93. When we finished the recording, we all loved it and went to go meet with Michael Black at Frontline.




Michael told us the album was “too dark and heavy for the Christian music scene!”




We were shocked and very discouraged! So we decided to scrap the recording and set aside the master.




During the fall of '93, we started recording the 'Next' album, we re-wrote some of the songs off of the 'Black Album' and wrote some new ones and came up with a killer recording. We were very excited!




The 'Next' album had a very dynamic sound with a lot of heaviness mixed in with some killer melodies and feel!!! This was personally my favorite recording we did!!! In fact, Jason Martin was hanging around a lot during the recording of the 'Next' album and a lot of the feel and sound wound up on the recording of his new project, Starflyer 59's first album!




A couple days before we were to meet up at Frontline to turn in the master, Randy was playing a couple of the songs on the acoustic guitar a la' 'Unplugged' style! He told me that we should re-record the 'Next' album with an 'Unplugged' feel. So we called Michael Black and told him we needed one more week.




So the 'Next' album was scrapped and 'Crazy Little World' was born. This recording took place early winter of '93! The band members were going through a very rough period during the recording of 'CLW', with divorce, close family members committing suicide and all...and it was reflected on the album! 'Crazy Little World' contains a lot of heartbreak and sadness...




We turned in the recording and had it mastered at Capitol Records. Frontline loved it and released 'Crazy Little World' during the spring of '94!




Unfortunately, Frontline started to go bankrupt during '94. Frontline originally signed us to a five album deal and 'CLW' was the fifth and final release for Frontline, as the didn't renew our contract.




R.E.X. Records became interested in signing Rose...and did for a one album deal! Since we already had a complete full-length recording sitting on the shelf with the 'Black Album', we gave them that!






R.E.X. Records released 'Into The Unknown' in the summer of '95. A tour was talked about to support the release but a couple of us were busy with recording Mad At The World's 'Dreamland Cafe'!




Take care,

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:51 am

Mike, are you saying this Next album was basically the heavy version of Crazy Little World?!? If so, do recordings exist of those songs done in the heavy ROSE style? Shocked

And if so, do you have those recordings in any form? And, if you do, if I were to completely humiliate myself and BEG YOU for a copy of it, would you provide such a treasure? (I'd even send you copies of my two cd's in trade!!!) :please:

Or have I completely misunderstood you? Neutral

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:58 am

Zombierockstar wrote:
Michael told us the album was “too dark and heavy for the Christian music scene!”

Grrr.... Mad This type of attitude is why I have adopted a "screw labels, stay indie!" credo. I suppose things were a bit different back then, but aren't labels notorious for interfering with bands' output?

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We were shocked and very discouraged! So we decided to scrap the recording and set aside the master.

I'm glad those recordings finally saw the light of day in the form of Into the Unknown, but it still angers me that you guys were discouraged in that way. That band did some great things, and I'm sure it could have gone on to do even more great things but for the narrow-mindedness of the industry. Grumpy

Such a shame. Frown

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:16 am

TrogDawn wrote:
Mike, are you saying this Next album was basically the heavy version of Crazy Little World?!? If so, do recordings exist of those songs done in the heavy ROSE style? Shocked


Pretty much! It was an incredible recording! I seriously thought that this album would've put a major dent in the Christian music scene! Randy and I discussed the possibility of releasing the 'Next' album, but we could not find the master! I thought he had it and he thought I had it...I was sooooo bummed about that! It still has not been found to this day!!!

TrogDawn wrote:
And if so, do you have those recordings in any form? And, if you do, if I were to completely humiliate myself and BEG YOU for a copy of it, would you provide such a treasure? (I'd even send you copies of my two cd's in trade!!!) :please:


I would love to do that, but I don't have it! The only thing I have from the recordings of the 'Next' album is one song!

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Or have I completely misunderstood you? Neutral


*smiles* Nah...you completely understood!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:23 am

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Pretty much! It was an incredible recording! I seriously thought that this album would've put a major dent in the Christian music scene! Randy and I discussed the possibility of releasing the 'Next' album, but we could not find the master! I thought he had it and he thought I had it...I was sooooo bummed about that! It still has not been found to this day!!!

Cruel fate!!! Mad Why do you mock me so?!?!? Crying

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I would love to do that, but I don't have it! The only thing I have from the recordings of the 'Next' album is one song!

Better than nothing! Bouncy I'll take it in any format if you're willing to give it! I'll even send you a copy of TD's debut for it, whaddya say? GEEN!

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*smiles* Nah...you completely understood!!!

I almost wish I hadn't now that it turns out the masters are missing... Grumpy

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:41 am

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I would love to do that, but I don't have it! The only thing I have from the recordings of the 'Next' album is one song!

TrogDawn wrote:
Better than nothing! Bouncy I'll take it in any format if you're willing to give it! I'll even send you a copy of TD's debut for it, whaddya say? GEEN!



I'll do that for ya!!! In fact, I have two CD's worth of demos through the years, including original versions of everything off of 'Healing' and some songs off of 'Into The Unknown' and then some!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:53 am

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I'll do that for ya!!! In fact, I have two CD's worth of demos through the years, including original versions of everything off of 'Healing' and some songs off of 'Into The Unknown' and then some!!!

Oh...HELL YEAH!!!! Ed-banger! OK, then I will also throw in a copy of the second TD, all-ambient, album (Kyna) along with anything else you want, man! Thanks so much! Doom-Metal

Lemme know when you're ready, and PM me your mailing address (and I will PM you mine) Troggish

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:07 pm

Sure thang Trog!!! I'll make copies of the two CD's for you!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:31 am

Bouncy

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:33 pm

You lucky bastage Trog!!!!

Personally I really liked CLW but I would also love to hear the heavy version. I really dig SF59 especially the early albums.

Big MATW fan too!

Michael Black is a pylon... don't get me started but have you ever heard Kevin Clay's song about him? genius man genius
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:14 pm

I agree with you Ghost...Jasons early stuff is priceless!!! I loved it!!!

Regarding Michael Black...

...your comment is also priceless!!! Hehe!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:18 am

ghosts of athanasius wrote:
You lucky bastage Trog!!!!

With Mike's permission, I'll gladly pass along whatever I get, dood. Smile

Calvin - SIR!!! Permission to share said ROSE rarities with ghosts of athanasius, SIR!!!?

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PostSubject: Re: Let's talk albums   Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:46 pm

That would be awesome! If you could just make copies and send them to Ghost that would be killer!!!!
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