Okay I may get slaughtered for this...

**ghosts of athanasius** · Subject: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Fri May 23, 2008 5:25 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdTJ5RFSncU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oW-jKaOioE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ivn4UGnJE&feature=related

But honestly I think not enough give Soundgarden enough doom props especially for their earlier material which was original yet jam packed with oh such Sabbathy goodness....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHy5tFI05js&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mML2NhjyLyU&feature=related

**dOOm&gLOOm** · TROGLIKE Number of posts: 1231 Age: 23 Registration date: 2007-01-24

Hey, no one here's gonna kill you for posting Soundgarden, I think most
of us are probably fans! I, for one, like the band. I think Randy has
mentioned them favorably as well.

Also, I have heard Tony Iommi mention Soundgarden on more than one
occasion saying he liked their music and that he felt the band was
helping keep the Sabbath sound alive. I think he's correct, and much of
the grunge movement was like that as well IMO.

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Theyyyyy sayyyy myyy songggsss are much too slowww....

**ghosts of athanasius** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Fri May 23, 2008 6:41 pm

People whine about Soundgarden because they call them grunge and say grunge wiped out metal

Bad metal killed metal and early Soundgarden was waaaaaay metal IMO just being more creative and taking a cue from Sabbath when others were trying to be the next Skid Row and Metallica was trying to be Oasis

**IronGuardian** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Fri May 23, 2008 8:40 pm

I've been told I need ot listen to black Hole Sun sometime..

**dOOm&gLOOm** · TROGLIKE Number of posts: 1231 Age: 23 Registration date: 2007-01-24

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

Bad metal killed metal and early
Soundgarden was waaaaaay metal IMO just being more creative and taking
a cue from Sabbath

YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS FRIGGIN BOARD???

[well, a number of reasons, really, but one of them is ... ]

... People here have their heads on straight when it comes to
their musical opinions! I have never understood the viewpoint that
grunge killed metal ... in my opinion, grunge brought back the 1970s
aesthetic of heaviness through simplicity and just rocking beats and
jams. The 1980s hair metal scene had to die just the same way that the
rest of 1980s ultra-excessive culture had to die. And grunge put the
"ROLL" back in "ROCK AND ROLL".

So, in other words Ghosty ... I could not agree more with that statement above. Gracias. Yay!

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**TrogDawn** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Fri May 23, 2008 10:35 pm

I'm an SG fan, always have been - particularly their Ultramega OK and Louder Than Love albums. And I always have held that grunge (some of it) is a distant cousin of doom. Troggish

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**ghosts of athanasius** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Fri May 23, 2008 10:40 pm

IronGuardian wrote:

I've been told I need ot listen to black Hole Sun sometime..

Black Hole Sun is a great song.. but the video is kind of disturbing... I will tell you why as most fundy's miss it. It is basically wishing the rapture would come and take away all the obnoxious plastic "christians"... of course what it really is a reaction to is the horrible abuses and caricatures that happen under the banner of Amercian Fundamentalism... of course that is not synonymous with Jesus and christianity but don't try and tell not-so-fun-dys that.

Personally as a believer I think bands like Soundgarden (with Black Hole Sun and Jesus Christ Pose) are spot on in rejecting the abuses that pass as christianity here. The sad thing is that these bands don't know authentic christianity and so all the garbage gets lumped in and the whole thing dismissed. I remember Kim Thayil talking about how surprised he was at the reaction to the video for Jesus Christ Pose because he thought Christians would agree with taking down hypocrites and people who use Jesus to shove off their own selfish agendas.... he was right IMO

Black Hole Sun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSkyEyBczU

Jesus Christ Pose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umHoQBZeXJQ&feature=related

**IronGuardian** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Sat May 24, 2008 2:02 am

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

IronGuardian wrote:

I've been told I need ot listen to black Hole Sun sometime..

Black Hole Sun is a great song.. but the video is kind of disturbing... I

You were very correct... that was a mightl freaky video clip!

**etombdissonance** · What is the Matrix? Number of posts: 436 Registration date: 2007-04-26

I didn't like most grunge, missed the great soloing and heavy riffage. Some of what got lumped into being grunge wasn't to me say an Alice in Chains. Just good 70's inspired heavy metal. I didn't like that it became passe to know the instrument well. Just my take.

**ghosts of athanasius** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Sat May 24, 2008 10:32 am

well SG and AIC definitely didn't fall into that category nor the guitar/bass work of Pearl Jam (those cats can play!)

**Shawn Eat Snake** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Sat May 24, 2008 12:34 pm

TrogDawn wrote:

I'm an SG fan, always have been - particularly their Ultramega OK and Louder Than Love albums. And I always have held that grunge (some of it) is a distant cousin of doom. Troggish

Count me in this camp as well...I also dig the Bad Motorfinger album...

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**withering** · Wanker Number of posts: 50 Location: Norway Registration date: 2007-08-09

ghosts of athanasius wrote:

well SG and AIC definitely didn't fall into that category nor the guitar/bass work of Pearl Jam (those cats can play!)

Agreed! You just made me pick up my Soundgarden mp3's again... and lo, 'twas good!
Really love the vocals, esp. on the earlier SG albums.

**ghosts of athanasius** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Sat May 24, 2008 2:26 pm

yeah man the early stuff is where it's at!

**etombdissonance** · What is the Matrix? Number of posts: 436 Registration date: 2007-04-26

I think of grunge as Nirvana and Mudhoney. So many groups that got called grunge, to me were just sludgey 70's hard rock. I liked Pearl Jam's first album but they moved away from that sound and lost me.

**Shawn Eat Snake** · Subject: Re: Okay I may get slaughtered for this... Mon May 26, 2008 5:01 am

SOUNDGARDEN and ALICE IN CHAINS were Metal bands at thier core...both thick with BLACK SABBATH influence...

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