Is Paul Chain a Christian?

**dOOm&gLOOm** · Subject: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:07 am

I just noticed he is included in the Christian Doom Alliance ... I didn't know Paul Chain was a Christian, is he?

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**TrogDawn** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:18 am

I believe he is, based on his logo and some of the titles and lyrics I've heard him use. I can't point you to anything that specifically says that he is, but my gut tells me yes.

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**dOOm&gLOOm** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:22 am

That's cool, I had no idea. As a note, it's good you include bands that are Christian but aren't necesarily wrapped up in the "christian music" industry or label.

BTW, Are you gonna throw Sleep in there as well?

... so now Wino has worked with TWO Christian groups ... wonder if he'll ever change his mind???

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**TrogDawn** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:50 am

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

BTW, Are you gonna throw Sleep in there as well?

If you can point me to some of their material that has lyrics with Christian or biblical themes, I might - although their heavy pro-weed stance might disqualify them. Were any of those guys believers that you know of?

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

... so now Wino has worked with TWO Christian groups ... wonder if he'll ever change his mind???

Who has he worked with besides PoS? Huh?

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**dOOm&gLOOm** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:29 pm

TrogDawn wrote:

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

BTW, Are you gonna throw Sleep in there as well?

If you can point me to some of their material that has lyrics with Christian or biblical themes, I might - although their heavy pro-weed stance might disqualify them. Were any of those guys believers that you know of?

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

... so now Wino has worked with TWO Christian groups ... wonder if he'll ever change his mind???

Who has he worked with besides PoS? Huh?

@ the first part: To be honest, I've never read through Sleep's lyrics. I just always thought it was common knowledge that they were a "christian" band in that the main dood (don't know his name) behind Sleep was a christian. I don't know if that's true as I never verified it but I've heard that a few places. What I heard is that his use of weed was in order to feel "spiritual" or connected to God ... he would use it in a ritualistic fashion in the way that it has been used historically for spiritual purposes. Again, I'm not sure if that's true.

Metal Archives lists Sleep's lyrical themes to be "weed, Biblical themes".

I can look through Sleep's lyrics though and let you know if I find anything.

@ the second part: Wino has also done work with Paul Chain. I don't have any of Chain's albums so I couldn't tell you where, but I've got a few MP3s where the artist Paul Chain feat. Wino kind of thing.

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**TrogDawn** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:17 pm

dOOm&gLOOm wrote:

@ the second part: Wino has also done work with Paul Chain. I don't have any of Chain's albums so I couldn't tell you where, but I've got a few MP3s where the artist Paul Chain feat. Wino kind of thing.

I didn't know Wino did somethign with Paul Chain. I know Lee Dorrian did, but I hadn't heard about Wino. Let me know more as you find out, ok?

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**dOOm&gLOOm** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:12 pm

sure thing

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**BLOOD AND IRON** · Wanker Number of posts: 32 Registration date: 2007-10-14

I'm a fan of PAUL CHAIN's work, firstly it took some time to get in the mood of some of Chain's music, one day i listened carefully "Park of Reason" then i started to get other albums.
Wino works in some songs of the Paul Chain album "Unreleased part 2". Its a great album in fact, for me, better than Alkahest (the one with Dorrian).

Speaking about bands that have biblical themes on lyrics that doesnt make a band "Christian oriented".
Many people take from the bible as if it was from some fiction book that can inspire to make some lyrical themes.
The main man behind Sleep was Matt Pike (who is currently doing High on Fire) but i think you are referring maybe to Al Cisneros or Chris...the guys who are doing now Om. I dont believe Matt is a Christian...but...i live very far from you all so what do i really know...by the way...considering Saint Vitus a Christian oriented band is a bit too much. It influenced a bit mainly for their MEGAcool logo but remember the cross has been used in Doom with other meanings too...just look at Reverend Bizarre for a good example of what i mean.

**TrogDawn** · Subject: Re: Is Paul Chain a Christian? Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:20 am

His albums are not all that easy to come by here in the US (especially the early ones), so I managed to download them all and I'm in the midst of making a 3 volume, 21 disc set of his entire catalogue. That way, I can turn myself on to them while I add the actual cd's to my collection as I come across them. So far, I have managed to find the Park of Reason cd, but I've never seen another one in my travels thus far (although I believe Hellride and All That's Heavy carry a couple of them). He's an incredibly prolific artist to be sure, and so far, I love everything I've heard. Plus, he's not afraid to get AMBIENT in between his DOOM projects - just like me! GEEN!